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    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    Software salespeople

    Hi Judy,
    These are all excellent pieces of advice from yourself and everyone else from the working Moms to contract percentages. We are an SaaS software co based in Florida, and have been open a little over a year (are profitable) and are looking to find some excellent software sales people based on contract percentages. Im curiuos where we would find these people?

    We are also in the process of moving our applications to another location that will handle all of our server needs and in this process a few of their salespeople that sell their products have seen our products and have contacted us about selling ours to their clients. We're currently discussing 40-50% of the setup fee plus 7-8% of monthly fees for a two year contract but this may change a bit as we create demo sites for their specialized industries.

    Marketting wise we have a robust CRM backend along with sophisticated marketting movies and websites but thus have only had very limited sucess with gathering leads from our website or search engines within our targetting industry. We have about 800-900 hits on Google when our co name is googled, and have submitted to 40-50 free search engines and are currently on a pay per click with Capterra.com but I hesitate to spend more money blindly on anything else before i see some kind of ROI. So many cos out there guarantee results but nothing happens, any advice on this?
    Posted 07-22-2009 at 12:08 PM by Dowlin Dowlin is offline
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    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    Good insights

    Good insights, Judy. Thank you!
    Posted 05-13-2009 at 03:41 AM by Atul Khandekar Atul Khandekar is offline
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    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    Thanks!

    Outstanding advice, thanks!
    Posted 05-11-2009 at 04:55 PM by jkronner89 jkronner89 is offline
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    Judy Schramm's Avatar

    Do you have a Management Team page?

    Your best bet is going to be to specialize in a particular type of project.

    When you have enough experience that you can craft qualifying questions that just by the way they are worded, show that you know a prospect's business and what matters to them and what the issues are with this type of project, then you will be able to leave a voicemail or email message that gets a response.

    If you have already been successful, that's the first step.

    The second step is to leverage those projects into other projects in the same area, so you are able to develop that expertise.
    Posted 05-11-2009 at 12:52 PM by Judy Schramm Judy Schramm is offline
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    Judy Schramm's Avatar

    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    The percentage that works is going to be different depending on the following variables:
    - How easy your software is to sell
    - How much your software costs
    - How big the market is; how many sales can be made
    - How much add-on revenue they can generate in terms of service, support or sales of complementary products

    If you have a pipeline of solid leads that you are generating, with more coming in all the time, and closing them is not hard, you can probably get away with paying 10-20%.

    If they need to do all the lead generation, you have no proven sales process for them to follow, and the sales cycle is long, you're going to pay at least 50%.

    If the ticket is 6 figures or more, you can get away with a lower percentage. If the software sells for less than $1000, you will pay a higher percentage.

    Try putting yourself in their shoes... How much money can they reasonably make? How much effort will they have to expend? How long will it take to see results?

    Focus on reducing the risk and the effort for them, while offering the chance to make a lot of money, and you'll get good people who will be willing to take a chance on you.
    Posted 05-11-2009 at 09:41 AM by Judy Schramm Judy Schramm is offline
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    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    What is a fair % of revenue?

    I am in the process of establishing a 100% commission sales plan and am interested in hearing what % works and is fare for both new sales as well as renewals.
    Posted 05-11-2009 at 08:53 AM by jkronner89 jkronner89 is offline
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    Do you have a Management Team page?

    RE:Do you have a Management Team page?

    Hello Judy,

    I completely agree with what you said.If we are right company Yes we have to put a Management Page.

    But i have doubt. most of the companies in US wont entertain cold calls especially people who want to do business from india will have a offshore sales team,and would do cold calling and in US its like a world of Voice Mails. emails will go in junk due to the filter.

    But still i can say i had bit of sucess in getting projects.P***ing all the barriers diffrent objection handlings and things like that.

    what is the more better way we can implement in this process of sales.

    Your thoughts and inputs please.
    Posted 04-29-2009 at 09:44 AM by lifesnteasy lifesnteasy is offline
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    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    Request more information

    Judy,

    I would definitelt be interested in hearing more as we are a Canadian based software company. Contact me hpoll38@yahoo.com
    Posted 03-30-2009 at 06:44 PM by Heidip Heidip is offline
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    Welcome!

    Hi Rudy,

    my name is kURGAT, I have started A value added company reselling softwares. My big challenge is selling software mainly POS, and D.M.S. How do i approach big corporate clients.
    Posted 03-28-2009 at 05:01 AM by Unregistered
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    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    We have worked with Industry consultants in a few countries (not US yet) with moderate success in a couple of cases and none in some. The business model seems to be trying to generate business for software around the consulting they already do and not vice versa. I will be looking into these opprtunities as well. We do provide all support and leads.

    Good comments by Dave and MylesJ.

    50% you say? Does this depend in any way on the price of the product? volumes?
    Posted 03-19-2009 at 03:02 AM by Atul Khandekar Atul Khandekar is offline
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    Judy Schramm's Avatar

    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    Dave, I do have a fair bit of experience with those models. Equity can work with the first couple of people on board, but it has a lot of risks. The main one is getting the right people involved, as you have pointed out. I have not seen it work very often. Usually doing a percentage of revenue works better, and is a shorter-term commitment.

    Myles, if you are worried about the customers of this one VAR, you need to address that directly, starting with the VAR and then with the customers if necessary. Given their lack of performance lately, I think you should be honest with them about your concerns. If they are truly interested in the new product and have the potential to produce, they should not object to some kind of performance standards being built into your agreement. Otherwise, I might have lunch with a competitor of theirs, providing you can do that.

    Also, 50% margins are attractive, but what's more appealing is showing VARs how they can achieve those margins plus service dollars with relatively little effort on their part. The more support and lead gen you can put behind the product, the easier it will be to get the better VARs interested.
    Posted 03-18-2009 at 04:58 PM by Judy Schramm Judy Schramm is offline
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    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    territory without committment

    I agree with Dave that the problem is being able to make a good contract. It is almost impossible to do that without being in danger of having your contracting partner be declared your employee. If you set up a territorial arrangement and the partner either does not put effort into your product or worse, uses your training to go find a more expensive product to sell, you are pretty much stuck for the duration of the contract unless those things are covered.

    We are about to go into marketing mode on software we have been developing for 6 years. One of my formerly good VAR's hasn't sold much in the last couple of years. Now he wants exclusivity "to make it worth his while". I figure if the other guys have been making sales and I have been making sales then he hasn't been working on our behalf.

    My problem is evaluating new VAR's. We are covered from Carolina up on the east coast and in the Northwest. A few VARs I've talked to want exclusives without committments. I know you can't really set sales requirements until the VAR gets moving in the local market. I used to get committments of a minimum of x hours a week, x cold calls and x follow-ups as part of the initial honeymoon period.

    I have to go slow because I am picky and my main concern is customers that I have had for 20 to 30 years. I'm hoping that the 50% margins I'm offering will be attractive to the right kind of local VAR.
    Posted 03-17-2009 at 02:26 PM by MylesJ MylesJ is offline
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    Dave Sommer's Avatar

    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    Engaging in Equity or Territory Revenue-Sharing Arrangements

    Hi Judy -- Here's a thought -- What I found to be a carrot to get some higher-calibre individuals and companies involved in marketing and selling a new product coming from a small firm is to have some sort of formula for giving them either equity (in the firm) or a percentage of sales in a given area for developing the area. This is tricky in determining what to give-away that is both valuable so they feel they have a longer-term commitment but not too costly to your company's long-term goals...and it's not something that large established firm necessarily need or want to do...but if a smaller firm with a new product can find the right formula for the company, the company can have a better chance of getting top-notched individuals/companies marketing and selling the product long-term. Obviously part of the challenge is locating and qualifying the individuals/companies to market/sell the product. It's sort of a reseller franchise model that requires a clear contract. I don't know if you or others have had experience with these sorts of models...
    Posted 03-12-2009 at 06:37 PM by Dave Sommer Dave Sommer is offline
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    Judy Schramm's Avatar

    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    I couldn't agree more. Moms are an amazingly underutilized resource and provide great value for almost any company.

    Lisa - do you use moms to sell for your business? How do you do it? I bet other readers would find your tips useful.
    Posted 03-09-2009 at 10:06 AM by Judy Schramm Judy Schramm is offline
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    Who Will Work for a Percentage of Revenue?

    Good points, Judy!

    In my business, mom's rock and they can work on commission and work part-time and make way more than they can in any other part-time job.
    Posted 03-06-2009 at 08:26 PM by LisaMoody LisaMoody is offline
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    Judy Schramm's Avatar

    Welcome!

    That is exactly what we have in mind.

    The next post is going to be about how to get people to work for a percentage of revenue - that's a question I get asked all the time.

    If there are specific topics you'd like us to cover, please let us know.
    Posted 03-04-2009 at 01:36 PM by Judy Schramm Judy Schramm is offline
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    Welcome!

    Thanks

    Thanks Judy, for starting this blog thread. I'd eagerly await your postings on this..esp if you can cover the problems facing 'very small' software companies from outside the US.
    Posted 03-04-2009 at 02:45 AM by Atul Khandekar Atul Khandekar is offline

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