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ci_98yr

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Legal Gurus,

Not sure where this goes (may be in strategy?)

I need clarification on going about on this:

Lets say a Pat app is pending (non-PPA) review at USPTO.
It will take a few yrs before any outcome is finalized @ USPTO.

Meanwhile, what should the folks who have this PA pending @ USPTO
do in order to make it difficult for competitors to copy or get in?
Rapid review process is expensive, and was told that only in case
of bio and other crictical areas shall the UPSTO consider rapid review.

In case of s/w what should be the strategy? Lets _assume_ PA is good and most likely be granted by USPTO in some form...

Many thanks in advance

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December 12, 2007 5:27 PM

Legal Gurus,
Meanwhile, what should the folks who have this PA pending @ USPTO
do in order to make it difficult for competitors to copy or get in?

Buy all of them out and slap em all with NDAs? :)

Seriously, Im not sure what this has to do with legal, once the paperwork has been filed, but I dont play a lawyer on TV or anywhere else.

From where I sit, you either release the software, or you wait.

In the case of the former, be the best vendor you can be to those clients, offering more value than anyone else, shipping the best product you can ship, providing the best support you can offer.

Of course, that has nothing to do with whether you have a patent or not, but it has everything to do with becoming competitive, much less remaining that way. A patent isnt going to protect a poorly run vendor for long.

In the case of the latter, seems to me that it makes competing easier for others by filing and then sitting on it. Additionally, consider that the prospective clients are not restricted by the patent from finding a solution to their problem.

December 12, 2007 5:41 PM

I'm not a patent attorney, but I do play one from time to time -- I've had a software patent application pending for over five years now. Of course, this is not legal advice, etc., etc. I assume you have a real patent attorney somewhere in this picture.

The flip answer is "hope they do infringe and are wildly successful and then sue them for all of their profits when you get your patent." The protection is retroactive to your date of application. Generally, the application is published after 18 months, so there's not much you can do in any event to keep your technology under wraps.

Some companies actually used to sort of encourage infringement in the pending period, following more or less the strategy I described above. My company got nailed for infringing the Unisys LZW compression patent. At the time we implemented the algorithm, Unisys was encouraging or at least tolerating magazine articles about how to do so, with no clue that they had a patent pending. This sort of strategy was called a "stealth patent," and the PTO put the 18-month-publication procedure in effect specifically to derail this strategy. Unisys said "hey, we're nice guys, we're not going after BACK royalties, so you got a 3-year royalty-free license to use our patented technology." That was no help to us because we had a product that would have been very difficult to re-engineer for reasons that are way beyond this digression.

More seriously, you probably don't want to encourage infringement. Unless you have a legal department the size of Unisys's, it may be hard to collect your royalties, so the above might not be a great strategy. I think you have to follow Mark's advice. Pretend there is no patent application. Heck, it might never issue. Be the best software company you can be. And if competitors infringe, and your patent is issued, well, then maybe you have some gravy coming in the form of back-royalties.

December 12, 2007 6:49 PM

Someone is always going to be trying to copy you, especially if you're successful. That is just an everyday part of business in the software world. Completely dominate your market and build strong relationships and ties with the people who will use your product. Make it so great that they recommend you to everyone they know. Get the jump start and build the infrastructure.

Truth be told, even when you have a patent, it doesn't mean that someone can't find a similar way to do what you're doing without infringing.

The last registered TM with USPTO took our company 20 months to receive and that was a basic trademark, I can't imagine that you'll see your patent before retirement, so live now ;).

Lisa

December 12, 2007 8:00 PM

I'm not a patent agent or a patent attorney. However, I have helped people file patent applications in a number of fields and personally have a software patent application pending. The recommendations that I've heard from the experts is pretty similar to what the other people who have posted here have said.

I would rely on commercial success not patents for success with a software product. Software and business methods patents take very long to get (much longer than most other art groups at the USPTO). You don't know if your patent will be granted, and if so what claims will be allowed. It also appears to be easier to "break" a software patent after it has been issued by finding other prior art because there is so much prior art.

December 13, 2007 8:20 AM

The comments above are spot on, so I really donÂ?t have anything to add except to verify that the Â?patent pendingÂ? statement is merely a warning that a patent has been applied for.

This warning is a notice to copiers that if the patent issues in the future, they may be liable for damages (royalties in arrears) and injunctive relief.

Chip

Disclaimer: my comments on this forum are for informational purposes only; they do not constitute legal advice, and should not be construed as such.

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