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kerri

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What will happen to windows based applications? What will happen to purchased WEB based applications? If the world demands only SaaS sofrtware then the 3 BIG guys can easily take the software market much like the automobile industry.

What do the software experts here think? Is this a reality 3-5 years from now? That only very very vertical and specialized products will be purchased and all other software is "rented"?

Thanks for your thoughts because this is a big question I believe for anyone who develops software.

Kerri

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November 29, 2005 10:51 AM

The SW market will continue to be segmented by those that need something that is good enough versus those that insist on significant customization. Perhaps in the future hosted applications will be Â?good enoughÂ? to meet the needs of the majority of customers. There will always be a population of customers that will insist on more flexibility. If these customers cannot buy it they will build it.

SaaS and open source offer some interesting challenges to the traditional SW licensing model. I believe that services will play a more critical role in the future of the sw market and that traditional licensing models will be under pressure to evolve within next few years.

November 29, 2005 11:22 AM

I agree with Tom. There are inherent advantages and disadvantages to both the SaaS "rental" and traditional perpetual licensing models. Neither will go away anytime soon. Each is appropriate for different market segments and psychographic customer profiles. I recently wrote an article on this topic in my Blog. You can read it at:

http://www.pjmconsult.com/2005/05/software-as-service.html

Phil Morettini
PJM Consulting
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November 29, 2005 12:38 PM

The software world will continue to evolve. I believe that there are three new frontiers:

1. Web-based software including SaaS (Software as a Service). With the improvements in user experience through rich media (such as Flash and AJAX) and the increasing ubiquity of the web, more and more things that used to be done on the device (PC, PDA, etc) will be done on a server connected to this device by the internet. Companies like Google see this as their opportunity.

2. The co-existence of open source, inexpensive, and brand name software. Increasingly we will have a choice between "free", "cheap", and "good" software tools. Much of the open source software starts out "free", but isn't except for people who can understand and support it themselves. It appears to have the highest market share for infrastructure (such as the Linux operating system) and standardized tools (such as the Apache web browser) in which it is preferable to having something stable and standard instead of something that continues to have additional features. There will continue to be opportunities for innovative solutions (good software) supported by a brand name that customers can trust. Examples are Adobe Acrobat and Microsoft Excel. However there will also be "cheap" and "free" alternatives such as the many other PDF creating tools and Star Office / Open Office. The customer will primarily chose between these alternatives based on brand recognition, product features, and the quality of the support.

3. The migration from a single PC platform to multiple devices. Increasingly, we will be able to access the same information on a mobile device (cellphone, PDA, Blackberry, etc) as we can on our PC or at a kiosk and these information retrieval devices will be built into other products such as our car.

The trend as I see it will be to provide our information securely and privately Any Time, Any Place, Any Device. In addition, we will be able to do this at any price, depending upon the features and support that we want. We will also be able to buy this or rent this. However the rental market will continue to grow as support becomes more of the value of what we purchase instead of infrastructure, which is becoming more commoditized.

November 29, 2005 12:41 PM

In my mind, there are distinct issues you are raising:

1) How software is delivered and used in the future (Web-based applications like salesforce.com vs. desktop fat-client apps).

The trend is clearly moving towards more centralized, web-based applications that run over the web. On-demand software as IBM calls it. SaaS. Will convential apps disappear? No. But SaaS will continue to grow because it can be convenient with mobile users (CRM is a good example). In other situations, less so. I don't think SaaS will become dominant in ERP for example, more of a hybrid.

2) How software is licensed and paid for: Subscription vs. Perpetual licensing. Will subscription licensing become the dominant licensing model? No. It will likely continue to grow in popularity, but I can't see it necessarily supplanting perpetual licensing. There are benefits to outright ownership.

Sometimes with strong trends, the tendency is to extrapolate futher and assume that they will obliterate the status quo. In this situation, while SasS and Subscription licensing are enjoying a rebound (let's not forget, this was the dominant model back in the old "service bureau" days of mainframes), perpetual licensing and code-installed apps will likely remain for quite a while.

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Robert Dubicki

November 29, 2005 2:23 PM

Kerri, Here's my 2 cents....

First let me say that the moderators' comments above are spot-on. While the SaaS business model is poised to grow, and like most authorities I believe it will grow in importance in the next 3-to-5 years, there'll remain a sizable portion of the market for purchased applications in the foreseeable future.

SaaS faces a number of sales objections that make it difficult to sell some (many?) people on the SaaS business model. One objection is that people *believe* (whether it is truth or not) that applications running on a self-hosted server makes it somewhat easier to integrate/interface with other applications and/or it is more secure. And people believe they can run their own app's as cost efficiently as an outsourced solution. And people like the "control" they have over a purchased solution. And there are other objections.

With that being said, for a number of reasons (primarily security and security maintenance but also the total cost of client hardware/software) I believe you'll increasingly see thinner clients (i.e., more web-based applications, less windows/fat client applications) whether they are delivered via SaaS or as purchased app's.

Hope this helps...

November 29, 2005 7:41 PM

Heh guys...you are great....what a response and how fast....no slow thinkers in this SoftwareCEO crew.

At least your predictions are hopeful that the .blobs wont take over entirely and there is still hope for the small ISV.

I am looking forward to more questions I can post and hear from you all.

Thanks again! :D

November 29, 2005 11:12 PM

Kerri ... I notice in your signature you are a CRM Goddess. Let's say the tables are turned. Do you think "On-Demand" software is the prevailing model for CRM?

My take is that accessible anytime, anywhere is ideally suited for CRM apps. But I'd be curious on your take?

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Robert Dubicki

November 30, 2005 12:40 AM

For one thing... I dont follow the "party line" and therefore I have my own view of what "CRM" is. Thanks for asking!

CRM is simply a customer-centric way of running a business. For every business this is different and therefore the CRM methods are different. The typical and "set to fail" way is simply technology that serves the individual but since CRM is neither a technology nor a process but the combination of them both (it's a tango) and a centricity away from the past (history - accounting centric) toward the future and the now - customer centric - then how can you possibly do this completely and successfully with an ASP / SaaS model? CRM literally demands integration, customization and continual evolution of the matching of people, processes and technology. Simply slapping Salesforce.com onto a sales guys desktop and synchronizing to a Blackberry is NOT CRM! But alas as long as the "fat ones" have the brand name (and the psychologists turned marketers) who helped them get there.... how could the poor unsuspecting public ever be educated otherwise?

To become a "CRM company" you have to stop operating your business for your benefit only (accounting centric) and start thinking of how to run your business from your customers perspective (CRM centric). This will require alot of change for most companies .....

....my rant for the day ....

November 30, 2005 10:47 AM

So Kerri ... how do you then see SaaS fitting into the CRM picture? Salesforce.com provides APIs and other capabilities to integrate.

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Robert Dubicki

November 30, 2005 2:37 PM

Most of the companies I work with (at least here in Canada) do not want their mission critical and sensitive business data travelling across the Internet and then residing on some server somewhere that SalesForce.com tells them is blah, blah whatever secure.

If you talk to them they of course can do anything...but question is....just how many companies do you know who have succeeded at achieving this "integration" and if so, are they Smaller organizations or ones that are so snugly in bed with Salesforce they wouldnt (couldnt) tell you how much it cost to get there (money and pain). Nor will they tell you what type of security pipes they had to retrofit in order to bring a semblance of security to the data transfers.

Not just Salesforce. I dont mean to shoot them down solely...they have a sales and marketing oriented service that is required by many companies but I dont see their "integration" with backend or business systems being viable at this time nor do I see their offering as CRM. At least, I am not sold and I would not recommend any of my customers go that route. Here we have privacy laws that would put companies at great risk by placing mission critical data in the potential hands of the US Govt.

November 30, 2005 2:59 PM

Kerri... so if I understand correctly, you believe then that:
1) Integration
2) Data Security
are the two biggest issues which will hold-back "software as services".

Fair enough.

But are these not also issues with conventional fat-client apps? I can lose my laptop in the airport. Or be dealing with all the sync issues with back-end systems changing. I don't think that fat-client apps have that much of a leg up over web-enabled apps. Do you?

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Robert Dubicki

November 30, 2005 5:35 PM

Its not simply fat against ASP/Subscription/SaaS or whatever the heck they call it these days. There is still WEB / Browser based that is self hosted, self managed ( or offsite as they wish) but connected through their own server to their own business systems. This is where I play in. Makes the most sense as it takes the best of both worlds.

April 20, 2006 6:14 PM

KERRI - You are my Hero :)

I agree with every word.

But don't worry, salesforce.com spends the millions brainwashing people but when they are fed up playing with the "hotmail" like interface and want to start being productive they come to us :D

Our sales cycle to salesforce.com customers is MUCH shorter than to customers who lever actually tried it out.

I sometimes recommend people to go play with it for a while and come back when they are ready to go to the next level.

If someone wants to play with the web based interface they can just use one of the many open source projects why pay so much for a bunch of html formsÂ??!? Â? if it is the integration interfacesÂ? GOOD LUCK!

Roy Daya, CEO
www.digital-clay.com

DigitalClay is a smart application engine for building dynamic software solutions without coding.

http://roydaya.com

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